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Today I’m very pleased to bring you an article by internet marketer Kathy Dobson. I was most excited when I stumbled across it on an articles site about a week ago—as it happens, only hours after she uploaded it. More about Kathy at the end of the post!

When most people entertain the thought of Immortality, they automatically think of Immortality of the soul after the death of the body. But, what about the body? Why do they automatically assume that the body is to be thrown away as though it has a limited purpose? Isn’t it highly possible that the body was created for a much higher purpose?

For those of you who are able to get past the teachings you were raised from birth with…such as the statement that “everyone dies”…for those of you who are able to open their mind to “all possibility” I challenge you with the thought that your body does not have to die. Are you brave enough to entertain such a brave thought? A thought that goes against everything you’ve been taught since birth?

Can you stand alone, steadfast and brave in your belief when the all the world tells you the opposite? For those that can the rewards are great.

Life is evolution. Evolution has been going on since forever and will continue to advance into Eternity. As long as there is movement there will be evolution. Evolution is change, change is movement as the Universe moves forward in it’s unending spiral through Eternity. It will change, but it will not die.

Everything evolves…man, earth, sun, planets, galaxies, and Universes are always evolving forward to new and greater heights. It can be no other way, for life is movement.

Your body must change in order to evolve into the next realm…it is an ongoing process that will never end. But, here’s the key, that change must be pushed into being while here on the earth…consciously with all the will of your mind and heart. That change must happen with you in charge…while alive on earth. Because earth is the plane of physical evolution and no one can evolve for you…you must achieve this great and glorious feat yourself.

There is a door, one that will exalt you to the highest heaven…the seventh heaven. Reserved for those who overcome…reserved for those with a body of Light.

In order to access this door we must become Master of our environment. We must become Master of our thoughts, words, actions and deeds. We must be the orchestrator of our life and desires…in total control.

For those hungry for more, there is more! Go within and ask. “Seek and you shall find.” “Ask and it shall be given.” “Knock and the door shall open.” It must start within your own heart. You must have reached the point in your evolution that nothing from without is fulfilling you anymore. You must desire with all your heart to “know God” not just “know about God.” And then you must ask.

If you are having a hard time grasping the idea that your body does not have to die I offer this:

Do you really think people will be dying 50, 100, 500, 1000, 5000 years into the future with the strides that science continually makes? You know in your heart that someday science will figure it out.

Why wait for science to figure it out when you have all the tools you need available to you right now? Why not join the thousands of spiritual pioneers piecing this veil that has held us captive for so long?

Your body was created for a purpose, but that purpose was not death. Your present body was created through years of evolution and it is still evolving. Why would you believe for a second that it stops here? Evolution does not stop. As you practice being in command of your faculties through the thoughts, words, deeds and actions of your body, you slowly but surely change the atomic structure of your body.

Walter Russell once stated that the atom was “light curled in on itself”. You are made of Light, the first substance created. But, this light has been clouded over with every fearful, discordant thought we have had through all our lifetimes, making this light ever so dim. Sort of like light trying to pierce though a dirty filter.

The earth has always been the stage for the evolution of the body and it still is. Once you remove all the veils dimming that ever lasting, living light within, that light will burst forth in blazing Glory and every cell within your body will beam forth the fullness of the Light within and you will become a being of Light as Jesus did on the Mount of Transfiguration.

Satprem so aptly named his book, ‘The Mind of The Cell…or Willed Mutation of Our Species’.

Will your Immortality into existence by your burning desire to consciously evolve your body into the fullness of it’s purpose…a being of Light, our next step on this glorious evolutionary road. Glorify God by achieving this great and Glorious body of Light. This is why you were created, this is why you have a body, this is your mission on earth.

“All things are possible to those who believe.” It must start in your heart. Turn within for direction from your God. He is waiting patiently for your attention, when you’ve exhausted your outside chase.

Why or how can anyone believe that the body evolved through all these eons of years on earth only to be eliminated now? It simply does not make sense.

Open your heart…and your mind to the greater glories which are your inheritance.

With our new glorified bodies we shall continue to consciously evolve these bodies as we spiral on to greater heights, worlds without end.

Kathy Dobson is a longtime student and teacher of Higher Wisdom. She is passionate about showing others the potential they have within. Her recent passions include Internet Marketing with an emphasis on Membership sites as a vehicle for creating financial freedom.
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Since I discovered this article, Kathy (on the right) and I have been exchanging emails at a rapid rate… because… she is planning to start a physical immortality blog soon! I am SO PLEASED!

We would both love to hear your response to her thoughts—comments are very welcome!
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At the start of this year an email landed in my inbox from Janni Lloyd. She contacted me because she has been interested in physical immortality for some time, and she had discovered this blog.

I was pretty excited… it was great to hear from an enthusiastic supporter of physical immortality, and she turned out to be Australian, from the state of Western Australia. Since then we’ve had a phone conversation (that lasted ages) and have kept in touch by email.

Now I’d like to introduce her to you by interviewing her!

But first, some info:

Janni started out as a medical doctor (so is officially Dr Janni) and later took up alternative medicine, mainly aura soma therapy. She has two young-adult children. Now to the interview…

ROBIN Welcome Janni! To start with, can you tell us how you came across the idea of physical immortality?

JANNI I was always very interested in how the psyche and emotions were involved in physical disease, and that led me to learn meditation about 18 years ago. In October 1992, I attended a course that involved several days of meditation and personal growth information – during that time I became very aware of how deeply connected we all are.

Then shortly after that, I received some deep intuitive insights… “physical death is a choice” and also “balance the masculine and feminine, the yin/yang”. I chose physical immortality almost immediately.

I had not read anywhere about physical immortality, however within about 8 weeks I was told about Sondra Ray’s book How to Be Chic, Fabulous and Live Forever. And since then the synchronicities have flowed abundantly.

ROBIN Wow! You found it within, rather than hearing about it! That’s very interesting. How did your family and friends react to the idea – did you say anything about it to them?

JANNI A few I told immediately – they were interested and supportive. Others I waited until I felt more “solid” myself with the new understanding.

ROBIN How did the idea make you feel, in the early days?

JANNI I had mixed feelings. Some excitement, of course. It also made me uncomfortable for a while. I was still a practising medical doctor and a lot of my insights did not “fit the paradigm”. Hence my move to alternative medicine. This was 17 years ago. There are now medical scientists talking quite a lot about physical immortality.

ROBIN Can you give us a couple of examples of scientists whose work on immortality you find interesting?

JANNI Dr Bruce Lipton, cell biologist, is one of my favourites – he did much stem cell research and has written a book The Biology of Belief. He is saying that we are not the victims of our genes but the programmers of them.

Biogerontologist Dr Aubrey De Grey is very actively pursuing physical immortality from the medical science perspective. He has organised a conference in Cambridge which is starting in a few days where he has gathered together many scientists – with lecture topics such as ‘Rejuvenating the immune system’ and ‘Rejuvenating extracellular material’.

ROBIN Were there times when, as a doctor, you wanted to tell your patients about physical immortality?

JANNI Most people I encountered when I was a doctor were not ready to hear about this paradigm shift in belief system, from “physical death is inevitable” to “physical death is a choice”. I also probably didn’t understand it enough myself then to verbalise it to them either. I can certainly look back though and see how the physical death paradigm limited their healing and general level of well being. The classic comment “you gotta die of something” was a wonderful excuse to not love and care for their bodies.

Also assuming “age” was responsible for so much – one person made that comment when their “number” was only 26! Always remember that a number does not define you. Especially as every molecule in our body is changed within around 18 months – no physical part of us is ever “older” than 18 months!

ROBIN What is aura soma therapy?

JANNI Aura Soma is a colour therapy that uses colour and the energies from essential oils, herbs and crystals to enable release of any challenges we may have psychologically and emotionally that may be preventing us from expressing our gifts.

ROBIN I know you travel around Australia and the world talking with groups and individuals about physical immortality – what have you been doing lately?

JANNI Yes I’ve been very involved in raising awareness of physical immortality and healthy radical life extension for around 10 years now. I will be presenting a talk on this at the Conscious Living Expo in Perth on September 6th. I also love to raise awareness on the internet and I’m enjoying my Do you choose life? thread in the Oprah online community. I feel networking is very important in this paradigm shift.

We also have Sondra Ray coming to Perth in November this year, 2009.

I presented a seminar in Orange County, Los Angeles this time last year and assisted Lynn Petersen establish a physical immortality interest group there. I also gave an internet interview for Elfreda Pretorius for her show ‘Game Changer’ while I was there.

My paper Physical Immortality – the mass possibility is freely available for all to read on my blog. In this, I discuss this possibility from the medical science, quantum physics, alternative medical and spiritual perspectives.

I have about 3/4’s written a book entitled The Fun Way of Physical Immortality Philosophy – this is taking it’s time to unfold and I’m very pleased that I have eternity to complete it lol

ROBIN I’m certainly looking forward to your book, as I think you have some great stuff on your blog. Are you thinking of including suggestions for how to become physically immortal?

JANNI Yes, there will be suggestions about what I feel has enhanced my life force during the last 17 years.

ROBIN Do you have any other projects in mind?

JANNI I would really like to be involved in creating movies and documentaries on this subject – don’t know how that is all going to unfold – I’ll just put it out to the universe and see who turns up lol

James A Sinclair who created What if? The Movie has read my paper and has said that a doco on Physical Immortality would be a good idea – you never know…

ROBIN What brings people to your seminars?

JANNI The people who attend my seminars are just the ones who are ready to hear about this possibility – they come from “all walks of life”.

ROBIN How have they received the ideas?

JANNI In the early years of my presentations there would occasionally be someone who was a little resistant to the possibility, that doesn’t seem to happen now.

ROBIN I’m wondering if you would like to recommend any books about physical immortality to my readers – I know you are much more widely read on the topic than I am (I haven’t got time – I’m a blogger – heh)

JANNI I love Robert Coon’s books, now available online through lulu.com, also Sondra Ray’s How to Be Chic, Fabulous and Live Forever, Leonard Orr’s Breaking the Death Habit, Herb Bowie’s Why Die?, Deepak Chopra’s Ageless Body, Timeless Mind and Ben Bova’s Immortality: How Science Is Extending Your Life Span–and Changing The World.

A wonderful fiction read is Tom Robbins’ Jitterbug Perfume.

All of these books look at physical immortality from the author’s own perspective. It’s important to keep that in mind… it is an individual journey! Even though the mass consciousness also seems to be shifting in that direction, we still bring our own UNIQUE FLAVOUR to it.

ROBIN We do indeed. Any other recommendations?

JANNI Well there are movies…
Reality/docos – What the Bleep do We Know? and What if? The Movie.
“Fiction” movies – The Man from Earth and Star Trek Insurrection.

Most important – trust your own intuitive prompts!

ROBIN Thanks for these! Janni, would you mind if we finish up with a poem of yours, that I found on your blog?

JANNI Of course not – which one?

ROBIN This one…

Health

That vital glow of cells vibrating
to a symphony born before creation
Each organ has its tune to play
in this melody of life

The conductor of this lively show
is love
pure love
how simple
yet we didn’t know

Well… it has been great chatting with you Janni, and I am very glad we have met. Thank you for joining us here on Let’s Live Forever, and farewell!

JANNI Thanks for the wonderful work you do Robin in raising awareness on this subject – I love your blog! Thanks for allowing me to share with you all.

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I hope you have enjoyed meeting Janni Lloyd. She will be around this week to reply to any comments you leave for her (hopefully for quite a few more weeks).

We would love to hear from you! Cheers for now – Robin

Some relevant links

Janni’s blog
Robert Coon’s website
Bruce Lipton’s website
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I recently found a wonderful thread about physical immortality on the Oprah.com discussion pages. Some bits are more wonderful than others, but I REALLY LOVE the introductory piece, written by Dr Janni Lloyd.

If you are at all intrigued by the idea of physical immortality, I suggest you check it out… it’s at Do You Choose Life? You may even like to join and have your say! (And the reason for the dolphin pic will become clear if you click through).

The discussion has been going since December last year, and at the moment there are over 340 comments.

Quite a few writers challenge Janni’s views, and quite a few support it, and others ask questions. Janni is very active in replying to everyone, and she keeps throwing in new thoughts, so the thread almost has a blog feel, I think.

One part of Janni’s introduction that resonated with me particularly was where she quoted Sondra Ray’s words: “all healing is temporary until you heal death”.

This thinking is probably the main reason why I chose to make this blog’s main focus physical immortality rather than healing in general… as far as I’m concerned, all the wonderful healing methods out there will ultimately fail if we believe that we will die one day—that something will get us in the end.

Something doesn’t have to get us in the end—it only will if we believe it will. Once we free ourselves of this belief we can take up healing techniques with a flourish, knowing we can ultimately be successful!

Janni is speaking at the upcoming Conscious Living Expo, which you might like to visit if you happen to be in Western Australia this September She’s scheduled to give a talk on the Sunday morning, titled Healthy Radical Life Extension (Explore the Possibility of Physical Immortality, from medical science to Quantum Physics, Alternative Medicine and Spirituality). Here’s the program.

The Oprah thread has got me wondering… could a blog work with one post a year? – heh

Jenny Mannion’s birthday!

It’s Jenny Mannion’s birthday today! She is having a surprise online blogging birthday party!

Jenny has a great blog: Heal Pain Naturally.

Jenny… Here’s a cake, some balloons and a pony!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JENNY!

Comments are OPEN for your enjoyment and contribution!

Cheers – Robin
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“Sondra’s ideas are mind blowing and life altering for an entire generation” ~ Marianne Williamson, author of A Return to Love

I’d like to write about Sondra Ray today!

Sondra is a rebirther, trainer, seminar leader and author. She travels extensively throughout the world, training rebirthers and leading personal growth workshops, as well as taking groups to India regularly.

It was through Sondra and her work that I was first introduced to physical immortality, rebirthing and many other healing techniques, and writers such as Louise Hay, Shakti Gawain and Ken Carey, in 1986. All of this brought about huge changes in my life, to put it mildly, for which I am very grateful.

Video interview

Below is a video of Sondra being interviewed in July 2007, in a Virtual Light broadcast. It’s 25 minutes long, and is mainly about rebirthing and birth trauma—she starts talking about physical immortality at about the 16 minute mark.

If you are at all interested in how birth trauma affects us, I’d encourage you to see through the rather long opening and the sound glitch at the start of the actual interview (and I wouldn’t describe the interview as dull). Here’s a link to the interview on the YouTube page, if you would rather look at it there, in a new window: Sondra Ray interview

Sondra’s background

Sondra started out in nursing. She obtained a B.S. degree in Nursing from the University of Florida College of Nursing and a Masters Degree in Public Health and Family Sociology from the University of Arizona. She was trained as a Nurse Practitioner in Obstetrics and Gynecology, and as a young woman worked in the Peace Corps, stationed in Peru.

By 1974 she found herself with her hair falling out and with various other issues, and she tried rebirthing, with the “founder of rebirthing”, Leonard Orr. Together with Leonard and others, she became a pioneer of the rebirthing practice.

Rebirthing

Sondra has been described as the “Mother of Rebirthing”, because of her extensive training of rebirthers and her expert knowledge of how our birth trauma affects our lives. Rebirthing is also known as “breathwork” and “conscious connected breathing” (however “breathwork” is also used for other breathing styles).

Here’s a small excerpt from the information about rebirthing I found on Sondra’s website:

Rebirthing is a breathing process that increases our ability to feel and resolve the effects of our past.

The result is an increase in the level of physical and spiritual energy in our body, thus cleansing the many tensions held there. The result of the physical cleansing is that the mental and emotional origins of tension come back into consciousness and can then be healed. By learning to breathe consciously and fully, we discover and release the core issues now held in our mind and emotions.

Using a deep connected breath for approximately one hour, the Rebirthing process releases stress and tension from the body and accesses and releases stored emotion. The rebirthing breath opens the body’s energy channels and accelerates the flow of creativity and intuition.

Seminars

Sondra invented the Loving Relationships Training (LRT), which is a weekend healing seminar/workshop, lead by various different trainers. I attended my first LRT in 1986, and I remember the deep sense of connection I had with everyone and everything around me afterwards—which has never left me. After that I participated in LRT events for about 3 years, one of which was lead by Sondra herself.

These workshops used very creative processes to bring about healing. Sondra still holds LRTs and other events today, all around the world.

Personal life

The latest excitement is that Sondra has recently got married! Her husband Mark Sullivan is a rebirther, teacher, artist and poet, and he travels with her, organises for her and participates in her seminars. They got married in India, and will be living in Tennessee.

Books

Sondra has written 17 books! I’ve got 8—here’s a photo of a portion of my bookshelf:

The large dark blue one towards the left is A Course in Miracles, which I mention because Sondra studies the Course daily and her work is based on it. The next 8 books to the right are Sondra’s (or co-authored by her):
• Loving Relationships – the red book, probably more or less her signature book in the early days
• I Deserve Love – light orange, affirmations for loving yourself
• Celebration of Breath – about rebirthing, and has a GREAT chapter about physical immortality
• Pure Joy – Sondra wrote this at Sorrento, just out of Melbourne, which is quite close to where Frank lived for many years before we moved in together. The last chapter is sub-titled ‘Finding the Australia within you’.
• Birth and Relationships (with Bob Mandel) – how our birth trauma affects our relationship patterns, and what we can do about it
• The Only Diet There Is – heal anything, including overweight, with a diet of forgiveness (and more)
• Ideal Birth – about birth practices
• Rebirthing in the New Age (with Leonard Orr) – about the early, pioneering days of rebirthing, and though the rebirthing information is somewhat out of date, it’s a funny read for anyone who has lived in a share house.

and Sondra’s latest book is…
Rock Your World with the Divine Mother. I haven’t read this one… it’s about developing, or connecting with, our feminine aspect. The forward is written by Marianne Williamson—here’s an excerpt:

I remember first hearing Sondra speak. … In her words and, even more powerfully, in her being, I knew that night I had found a guiding light. … If Sondra writes a new book, I read it. I let go of my left brain and drink her in.

~ from the forward, by Marianne Williamson

I heard Sondra say in an interview that while the artist was designing the cover, there was an earthquake!

Different approaches

As far as I know there are nearly 7 billion people in the world today, and I think there would be about that many ways of both healing ourselves and achieving immortality of the body. We need to find our own individual approaches to these, in my opinion, the same as we do with anything.

My approach to healing and physical immortality is a little bit different to Sondra’s… on a superficial level, anyway. As far as I’m concerned, though, her leadership, knowledge, service, love, creativity, humour and plain gutsiness in these areas are fantastic, and for these I am very grateful. Thank you Sondra!

I’d love to hear what you think about any of this, if you would like to leave a comment below. If you don’t have a blog or a website, leave the ‘website’ box blank.

Sondra Ray and rebirthing links

Sondra’s website
Video of Sondra speaking, Part 1 and Part 2 – about rebirthing and more
Podcast interview with Alan Davidson, March 2009, about prosperity
Sondra’s books on Amazon
Philadelphia Rebirthing Center

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[Update, May 13 - I believe now that these books are entirely fictional, and Spalding did not travel to India at the time described. To me, the message is authentic, as it is consistent with information from other sources.]

I’ve just re-read volume 1 from the set of 6 books, Life And Teaching Of The Masters Of The Far East, by Baird T Spalding, for the first time in 22 years, and was blown away by it.

Baird T Spalding was a geophysicist and mining engineer, born 1857, who travelled a lot doing geological surveys, and he and a party of fellow American scientists spent over 3 years traveling with immortal masters in India and thereabouts, from 1894.

I bought the set and read it in 1986 (in those days it was 5 books)—it was pretty standard reading for anyone interested in physical immortality. I enjoyed it, felt I understood it, lent the first volume to my breathwork buddy ‘D’, lost contact with ‘D’… and never got the book back!

Because the series has been invariably sold as a 5 (or 6) volume set, I felt less than enthusiastic about buying it again—I already owned the rest of the set. I have leafed through the other volumes occasionally over the years, but somehow couldn’t get into them. But then I discovered recently you can buy the separate volumes on Amazon—and Bingo, I am the proud owner of a new volume 1 with a different cover from the rest. And as I said, I have just read it and been blown away.

The story

The books are kind of like a cross between a boys-own adventure and a spiritual guide. In volume 1, Spalding and his group are taken by three guides Emil, Jast and Neprow for treks around and through the Himalayas and its foothills, staying for short or longer periods in various villages and temples along the way. This book covers the first year of their travels.

They discover fairly early on that their guides could travel large distances in only a few minutes by disappearing and re-appearing somewhere else, and were creating their food out of thin air. In the course of the book they observe people walking on water, walking through fire, and rooms being kept warm and lit with no discernible power source. They also learn that their guides and their many friends, who they also meet, are immortal and mostly several hundred years old, while looking like healthy young people (except more interesting).

The guides and their friends are extremely warm, friendly and loving, and they go to great lengths to explain that they are regular humans who are doing things all humans are capable of doing.

Spalding and the books

Spalding kept handwritten notes of his travels, and friends asked him for copies, so he typed up what became volume 1, and carried these typed copies around to give people. In 1924 a woman printed 1000 copies to give to her friends, and within 60 days, orders for over 20,000 copies were placed.

After the success of volume 1, Spalding went ahead and wrote more of his materials up to become volumes 2 (1927) and 3 (1935), about his second and third years with the immortals. He was 70 in 1927.

After this Spalding wrote and spoke extensively about the teachings of the immortals. Volume 4 (1948) consists of some of his writings about these teachings, and volume 5 (1955) was published 2 years after his death in 1953, and contains material from lectures he gave in the last 2 years of his life.

Very little has been known about Spalding’s life—he apparently kept people’s focus well and truly on the message he conveyed. So it was very exciting for people who loved his books when someone went though “ten dusty cartons” in the publisher’s warehouse and found “unpublished Spalding manuscripts and papers, magazine articles, personal letters, photographs, and other biographical materials”, some of which have been compiled into volume 6, published in 1997. I’m quoting from the DeVorss website (the publisher).

Eternal life

The message in the books is very clear—we are immortal beings who have nothing to gain by dying, and everything to gain by reaching for full expression (my description). Of course, it is ironic that Spalding himself died, aged 95, as have quite a few other people who have spread the ideas of physical immortality.

Maybe these people saw a truth, but at the time they lived, humanity’s group mind had not evolved to the point where enough people love life so much they don’t want to leave, and are willing to heal themselves of anything, so that it becomes easy for everyone to slip into physical immortality. The immortals in these books have done it anyway.

Is it true?

Detractors of Spalding say all sorts of things about him—personally, I think that if information resonates as truth, or as useful, then it is true, or useful. Spalding’s story resonates as truth to me. He wrote at the start of one of his books: “In this I sincerely and with all respect remind the reader that the more receptive one is, the more one receives.”

The books and me (and you)

To me this series of books covers similar territory to other books I have been re-reading regularly over the years (The Door of Everything, Ken Carey’s books), but because I haven’t ever read this ‘Life and Teaching’ book again since the first time, I can see a huge difference in how I perceive it now to how I perceived it then.

I understood the message of the books back in 1986, and felt inspired by it, but I was too “buried” to really take it in. While I had so many “problems”, the information seemed nice and fun, but not immediately useful. I notice that I am far more alert and clear about it’s message now, and find it very relevant to me and the people around me, today.

I’d really recommend these books to anyone who has been even slightly intrigued about physical immortality—or volume 1, anyway! I think it explains the physical immortality outlook very well, and certainly more completely than I have on this blog. Much of it is couched in religious terms, which I find doesn’t interfere with the message, but some might.

Here’s a link so you can look at it (and some reviews) on Amazon: Life and Teaching of the Masters of the Far East, Vol. 1

And ‘D’, if you discover this post when you are Googling away looking to buy your missing volumes on the internet, do drop me an email (or leave a comment, wouldn’t that be funny!)

Speaking of comments, I’d love to hear what you think. You are welcome to leave a comment if you are not a blogger—if anyone who has read Spalding’s books is reading this, it would be great to hear your thoughts about them.
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I’d like to share the following excerpt from The Door Of Everything with you. This book was authored by “the guiding voice of Father consciousness at the center of your soul”, and written down by Ruby Nelson. This excerpt comes from the chapter titled ‘The Sacred Seed’.

It’s pretty long—I was intending to pick bits out and string them together for you, but I ended up leaving all this part in. So I hope it isn’t too long for reading this type of writing on the web, and that you find it useful in some way. I do! I’ve added some sub-headings to make it easier to negotiate online. Here goes…

A tomato seed
Let us return to the tomato seed and look at it more closely. Is it strictly a seed, a little collection of molecules that cling together in a certain way to form a certain kind of matter? If you had never seen a tomato seed, and had never heard of a tomato, the seed probably would appear to be no more than an insignificant bit of matter capable only of a short, unproductive existence followed by decay.

However, if someone told you about the tomato seed, explaining that within those apparently inactive molecules a divine pattern was held in waiting, eager to come forth, a pattern for a fragrant, leafy plant which would flower and bear delicious fruit, you would find it hard to believe.

Knowing nothing at all about the reality of tomatoes, you probably could not visualize such an impossible thing as a big green plant with red fruit growing out of an uninteresting-looking seed. You would, no doubt, laugh uproariously at the quaint idea that all you had to do was bury it under the dirt, then keep it watered, and the forces of nature would co-operate with it to bring about its amazing change of form.

A different pattern
When you are told that your very being is a seed containing a pattern altogether as different from what you appear to be as the tomato seed-pattern is different from what it appears to be, this idea is just as difficult to visualize. You can accept the tomato idea readily enough because it is a very ordinary thing, with tomatoes you have seen it happen.

But with human beings, the problem of visualizing a complete change of form is something else again, you have never personally known anyone to experience such a radical change. Human beings are born, they grow, they think and dream and create for a while, then die. If they contain a pattern for some other destiny, it is no more obvious to your surface mind than the pattern in a tomato seed is obvious to your naked eye.

Where is this Grand Cosmic pattern contained within you? Where is the nucleus of your own sacred seed? How can you feel its reality, believe in its existence, plant and tend and let it grow?

The nucleus of that sacred seed is your soul. Your soul is not an elusive entity hiding out somewhere within, your soul is the collectively organized life force in every atom, every molecule, every cell of your body. Your soul is the total consciousness of your being. It is the very awareness that animates you, that lets you experience living. Your soul is light, pure light, the very Light of Life.

The life force
Just as the plant pattern in the tomato seed is locked within its life force, awaiting proper conditions for automatic release, the Christ pattern within you is locked within your life force, awaiting proper conditions for a similar release.

In the case of the tomato, its life force is released when it is planted and kept moist long enough to interact with the forces of nature and draw unto itself the necessary building materials found in its surroundings.

In the case of yourself, the life force is released and begins to grow, drawing in the building materials supplied by nature, when your attitude of mind and heart provides the proper conditions for such growth. The needed growing materials are available to you just as they are to the tomato, they are supplied by me, and they would have been drawn unto you easily and naturally if your attitude had not caused conditions to be wrong for growth.

Your life force has, for the most part, gone unappreciated by your surface mind. You fully realized that you had a soul and that it was most likely an eternal soul which would, someday, have a chance to express more freely without the encumbrance of a physical body. Did you stop to wonder what the physical body was for, why I imprisoned your soul within one?

Did the tomato seed stop to wonder why its life force was imprisoned in the molecules of a seed? Did it look forward to the time when the seed would die of old age and set its life force free? No, it realized instead that it was in the seed for a purpose, that through the seed it could work its way to full maturity, to full fruition. It realized that within the seed its divine pattern was contained.

Body, mind and soul
As man, you are a threefold being—mind, body and soul. If either is missing, you are a seed without fertility. If the life force of a tomato is not within a seed, it cannot sprout and fulfill its destiny. If the life force of a man is without a body, it must clothe itself in the substance of a new body before it can fulfill its destiny. The soul is the sacred seed while the body is the vehicle through which it finds expression, in much the same way that the brain is the vehicle through which the mind expresses.

Your soul is a living part of me and my omnipresent life. Your soul is constantly being regenerated and revitalized by the great life-essence which circulates throughout my cosmos. This life force reaches all, supplying animation to all, tying all things together in one dynamic wash of ever-flowing, ever-renewing consciousness.

This indescribable life force is being received by my children in varying degrees, depending entirely upon your attitudes. Your body is the vessel which receives it, your mind controls the angle of the vessel, and your heart determines how much of this River of Life you will let in.

The River is flowing all around you, in it you live and move and have your being. It is the supply found in nature from which your sacred seed may draw to unfold within you the pattern of your Grand Cosmic Self.

The spark of life
Your sacred seed, your spark of life, awaits only the cooperation of your totally-still heart center. When you have extended this cooperation, the sacred seed will begin to grow, to fulfill its cosmic pattern as the human hull falls away and allows the holy metamorphosis to be completed.

You have much to gain by learning to appreciate your spark of life. Concentrate on its presence, feel it, enjoy the silky flow of it as it gushes up from the deep well of your soul. This spark of life is more than just the human consciousness you thought yourself to be. This spark of life is the very Light of Christ which I wedded to you and from which you cannot possibly be divorced. By simply learning to appreciate it, you may cause its flow to be enhanced until it gushes up and becomes a living fountain that can never be diminished.

By the opposite attitude, you can decrease its flow. You can squeeze it out of your body altogether. But you cannot destroy it or cause yourself to become anything apart from the Light of Christ, for it is out of this very light that I have shaped your being.

The elemental nature of life is to increase, to seek more and more expression. This law of increase holds true within you as readily as it does in any aspect of nature. Life is a joyous, singing river ever surging onward. As you feel it and appreciate it, the little trickle finding outlet through your being will bubble up into a flood, drawing you into the beautiful pathway of the River of Life More Abundant.

Full expression
This is what happens when you become the Living Christ. You do not suddenly become something else, or somebody else, you merely express a fullness of what you already are. You merely allow the Light of Life to come forward and increase. You merely allow the soul to stand forth in full reign over your body kingdom, your own personal soul whose right it is to have full reign.

Meditate on the life within you, cherish it. How joyous the surge of it! Imagine that surge doubled, tripled, multiplied by a hundred, by a thousand. That glorious Light of Life will respond to your appreciation and begin immediately to shine brighter.

It is a sad mistake to regard life as a bore which must be endured, with all its hardships, until death comes to set you free. Death is not the road to freedom, it will merely retard your progress. The life force in your body is the key to the freedom that you seek.

The chapter then goes on to talk of caterpillars and butterflies.

What I think is… let’s hear it for the life force and delicious fruit! I’d love to hear what you think.

I was telling Frank what this post was about, and that I needed to find a photo of a tomato plant, and he said: “why don’t you put in a photo of our chilies?” I thought: “well, there’s an idea!” – so on the right you will find a photo of one of our chili plants. Which leads me to ask… would you rather be a tomato seed or a chili seed?

I’ve done a great big makeover of my About page, in case anyone’s interested. I put in a new photo—I made Frank take it in the kitchen (perhaps I should rephrase that)—I’m parting my hair on the other side now, for the first time in my whole life. Cheers!
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It’s as if we are gods and goddesses living in little mud hovels and driving around in clunky, funky old jalopies.

This is from Shakti Gawain, in her book Living in the Light. It is from the chapter Spirit and Form, which is about integrating the physical reality we find ourselves in with our already fully developed spirit.

So… are we really gods and goddesses? I think so!

Easter time

At the end of my last post, What if? The Movie – A Review, I related a question Dr Bernie Siegel posed in the testimonials area of the What if? website – “What if Jesus was the only normal person to have lived?”

I put it in because I thought it was a quirky and relevant thought, but it turns out to be very relevant here also, this being my Easter post and all. I didn’t plan it!

I happen to think that the message of the Jesus story is that we can all do the “miracles” that he did. I also think that the Easter story was showing us, with Christ’s death and resurrection, that we can overcome death. After all, the Christian scriptures are full of references to “eternal life” and not seeing death and so on.

Anyway, it was very interesting to read people’s thoughts on Dr Bernie’s question! Here are some excerpts from some of the comments…

Miguel – wisdom and life I guess that praying all day would be normal

Jenny – heal pain naturally We ALL are children of God. We all have powers beyond our wildest dreams. We are all healers and can manifest if we believe and love ourselves and our Source/God.

Tess – the bold life Well that means we will won’t be normal until we “do even greater things”.

Vered – mommy blogger I think it’s good to challenge ourselves and ask ourselves whether “normal” could be something completely different – and much better.

Kelly – writer, mom, traveller I think if Jesus were the only normal person to have lived, then a world of miracles awaits, and that’s an idea to hold onto.

Ribbon – fragments, treasures, memory I think that Jesus is a celebrity of “normal”… I think that there are probably quite a few so called normal people all about the place.

Evelyn – attract abundance Hmmm….it got me thinking about what “normal” is?

Tom – business coach I once tried to live a day as Jesus would have lived and I made it for about 27 minutes.

Dot – deeper issues This is exactly the approach of Christian Science………Jesus said that any one of his disciples could do what he did, which CS interprets as meaning anyone who believes.

I must say I enjoyed Ribbon’s comment, describing Jesus as a celebrity of “normal”. Could it be that we (or perhaps the early leaders of the Christian church) have put Jesus on a pedestal so we would have a cop-out from doing as Jesus has done?

Our true nature

I’ve always remembered an analogy I once heard for our relationship with God (or the Source, or the universal creative energy)…

“If God was a pie, we are all pieces of pie. We are not the whole pie, but we are still pie.”

I agree with this… that we are all part of the God-pie—in essence, we are God.

Healing ourselves

All of this isn’t much help if we are still driving around in those clunky, funky jalopies.

Luckily today there are many resources to help us heal ourselves, physically and emotionally, so we can fulfill our potential. I think consulting healing practitioners who can facilitate the transformation process would be the best bet for anyone who is either very ill or wants to change quickly, and there are also books, audio programs and movies for finding information, techniques and inspiration.

I’ve listed the books I’d recommend for healing and transformation on my resources page—most of them are the ones I have personally found most helpful. I’d also like to comment on three movies I have discovered recently:

1. You Can Heal Your Life, The Movie.

This movie tells the story of Louise Hay and her work. I think it is a great introduction to the field of healing from within, and both introduces and extends her book You Can Heal Your Life very nicely. It begins and ends with a character deciding whether they are willing to change, so could be great for someone who is feeling stuck. (If you are interested in following up on this DVD, it would be best to search for it yourself, so you get the zoning and shiping rates to suit you.)

2. What if? The Movie – Awakening.

I reviewed this movie in my post What if? The Movie, A Review. Through giving examples of healings that have occurred and discussing new findings by science, this movie shows it is possible for us to heal ourselves.

3. The Living Matrix.

I’ve just read about this movie in a post by Jenny Mannion, The Living Matrix Movie — The New Science of Health and Healing is Here. I haven’t seen this movie yet, as it is just out, but I understand it is very inspiring. It covers new scientific discoveries that confirm or explain alternative mind-body healing methods—certainly one for the doubting Thomases, I’d imagine. Please do read Jenny’s review if you are looking to heal yourself of any illness, or know anyone who is.

We can do it, the healing is there for the taking.

So come on all you Gods and Goddesses—let’s show the world who we really are!

I made a video. It may not be my finest moment, but I couldn’t resist putting it up. I had pressed RECORD on my computer for Frank to muck around, and found myself stuck in the background. Here ’tis!

Now, wouldn’t you like to join us for eternity?

Have a great Easter break over next weekend, everybody!

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What would you be doing today if you believed you were never going to die?

I know I would be doing exactly as I am doing today… finalising Frank’s tax records to send to our accountant, interspersed with writing this post, and I just went for a short walk, leaving Frank slaving at the kitchen table going through receipts. Because I do believe I’m never going to die, and this happens to be what I get the urge to do today.

When I first started seeing my lifespan this way, in 1986, at the age of 33, I realised that lots of the things I had been doing were motivated by thinking time was running out. In my twenties, when I was working full-time, I’d get up early on weekends to pack lots in—”we get back what we put in!” I thought. (I still think that, but would apply the idea differently, now.)

I thought I had to do lots to have an interesting life, and therefore feel satisfaction. Needless to say, it didn’t work.

Also, I remember thinking I wanted to create a lot of memories I could reflect upon when I was old—I thought that when I became frail and elderly, I would want to have lots of good memories to keep me company.

Intuition

Nowadays, I know about being in present time and following intuition, and I firmly believe these are what lead to satisfaction in life.

Many of us are finding ways to be right in the present moment, for example by meditating, getting into our creative flow, and being in moments of joy with loved ones.

Once our attention is in the present moment, we can tune in to our intuitive prompts and follow them, if we want. To get better at this skill, we can practise choosing intuitively which way to drive home, and work up to the big things, which can include making interesting plans and building something up (a business, a castle, a blog).

We can’t ever access intuition though, if our attention is not in the present, and it is not in the present if we are making decisions with regard to some imagined future restriction. There’s a big difference between building a business because it is exciting and creative for us, and because we feel we need to store nuts away for our inevitable decline.

Making the most of time

Doing things because of the age we are and will be, being busy because we might miss out on things, acting from consideration of future restrictions, and trying to create great memories, are not being in present time.

Therefore, doing them makes it impossible to follow intuition, and gain the satisfaction that comes from doing so, no matter how much they are dressed up to be “making the most of life”.

Also, using our imagined possible imminent demise for trying to enhance life is being WAY out of present time. It is manipulating how we feel and deciding what to do from the ego, not the intuition.

Anyway, why try to make the most of our time when time is not running out? There is only the present moment, and it is eternal—you can only slip into it when you forget about time.

Lazy boots!

What if our intuition is saying to stay in bed all day? If we are thinking “life is short” and that we need to make the best use of what time we have, we will force ourselves to get up and at it!

Maybe if we had stayed in bed all day, in this example, we might have had a fantastic idea, or got inspiration for solving a problem, or simply got some physical rest we needed.

(I’d suggest here that if we have responsibilities to dependents, intuition won’t lead us to desert them. It might lead us to change how we operate, if that’s what we need to do.)

But if we are in “making the best use of our limited time” mode, we won’t ever know what might have been. If we constantly do (or don’t do) things because we are concerned about time running out, we never find out how we can stop wasting it. Intuitive promptings simply don’t know about future limitations, which are invented by our busy minds.

An alternative

If we believe we are never going to die, or grow old, we are free to explore what satisfies us, without that edgy feeling of time running out. It brings us totally into the present moment in a magical way. We never feel we are missing out on anything, so can explore exactly where we are right now.

What do you think about this? How did you feel about the question at the start?

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Back in May last year I posted a short story: The Fountain Of Youth. I wrote this in the mid 90s, and I published it pretty much as I wrote it then.

Now I have updated it! By adding an epilogue.

It would make most sense to read the whole story, but if you haven’t got time, it’s basically about a guy called Melvyn who finds a trickle of water he believes makes him immortal. It’s also about both his reactions and the reactions of the people around him.

Here’s the epilogue:

Many years later, Melvyn found himself surrounded by people who had their own special water supplies. His relationship with Alice hadn’t lasted—he was with Yvonne now, whom he met at a peace rally. Yvonne hadn’t understood Melvyn’s water at first, but after a while, she thought “why not?!” and she started sharing Melvyn’s supply.

Melvyn and Yvonne had 6 kids, and they brought them up to see themselves as living forever. Yvonne became a successful mommy blogger, giving tips on how to raise children free from fear, and Melvyn got into developing software for running Windows programs on Macs.

Many of Melvyn’s friends had their own special water supplies by now—it was the norm, in fact. It wasn’t that big a deal to them, in the end… they simply thought living forever sounded like a good idea. Even Melvyn’s mother decided to go with the water—her life had been getting better and better and she felt like a kid inside, anyway.

The TV chat show host became known for his excellent TV series where he interviewed interesting people, giving them “enough rope” that they could really share themselves.

I wrote a spiel at the end of The Fountain Of Youth about how I had reservations about discussing the ideas of physical immortality, and I am very grateful for the support a handful of bloggers gave me on that occasion. It meant a lot to me then, and still does.

Now, I’d like to give advance notice that I am over being shy about it, and am quite happy to promote these ideas as much as I can. I think it has something to do with finding other people who I see eye-to-eye with out there in internet land. More to come on those people soon!

Cheers – RobinMore posts, a random selection:

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As this is my first post for 2009, I thought it might be a good time to gaze into the misty realms of the future and “see” how things might go for this blog and its topic of living forever. How long can I sustain a topic like this for? Will Let’s Live Forever! live?

Or maybe I should put this more boldly, and announce I have a PLAN for this blog! Um… well, if I have a plan, it could go like this…

Year 1 – 2008

2008 was a year for introducing bits and pieces of philosophy to puzzled bloggers and web searchers, that hopefully more or less covered the basic concepts of living forever in our bodies.

As 2008 was last year, including it in this plan technically makes the plan a 4-year one, I suppose. Oh well… “5-Year Plan” sounds better.

Year 2 – 2009

In 2009, I will continue to be introducing the concept of doing away with death, and making suggestions for how it can be achieved (i.e. healing methods).

I’d also like to start involving other people more. I’m hoping to find other immortalists who might enjoy being interviewed, or having their work showcased. They might even write a guest post!

There are a few well-known teachers in the physical immortality field—perhaps they might like to be involved. I’ll be introducing some of them this year if it feels appropriate. I’d love it if some lurking immortalists came out of the woodwork to have their say on this topic, as well.

Maybe I’ll start finding quite a few blogs about physical immortality. There are lots of websites out there, but to me, blogs have a much more human touch. I’ve found a couple of immortality blogs just recently, so maybe I’ll get my wish here. Perhaps I’ll get to write a guest post on one!

Year 3 – 2010

In 2010, Let’s Live Forever! might start turning into one of those newsy blogs that have lots of short, sharp articles breaking the latest news. Now let’s see…

• There might be lots of breakthroughs on anti-aging to report on. At the moment I’m not terribly interested in these—I tend to think that addressing whether people want to live on is more pertinent than discussing the medical means.

Also, to be immortal in our bodies we need to avoid both accidents and being the victim of serious crime, as well as avoiding illness and aging, so I don’t think medical cures for aging, on their own, are the be-all-and-end-all in the quest for immortality.

However, if there were some nifty cures for aging, it might change our expectations, resulting in longer life-spans. But then again, if we use these cures but don’t really want to live, we might just have more accidents.

• There might be substantiated reports of immortals living among us—or very old people, anyway. I don’t know how we can prove the ages of these people, to those who understandably question them—people don’t come with growth rings like trees display, should one cut across them. Maybe there’ll be a way.

• If it’s true that there are greater energies descending on planet Earth, and people are polarising between more extreme positions of love and fear (like I described in my post Is The World Getting Better Or Worse?), then more of the fear-filled people might be dying—perhaps in dramatic, newsworthy fashion. Maybe we won’t have to tolerate ruthless dictators for much longer. Just a thought.

Year 4 – 2011

In 2011, the news reports might be of a more gentle and intriguing nature…

Year 5 – 2012

By the end of 2012, everyone will be taking the idea of indefinite life spans totally for granted. They will be so into living in the present moment that the “bad old days”, when people died, will be a distant memory. There will be no call whatsoever for this blog, and I will take up gardening.

Or I could start a blog about the exciting new developments in space travel.

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