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	<description>physical immortality is a healthy choice - physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually</description>
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		<title>By: Bren Parks</title>
		<link>http://letsliveforever.net/2008/11/why-we-sabotage-ourselves/#comment-3328</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  This article really puts a very valid point out there.  I think this may have a LOT to do with how we perceive the world.  Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to do more research!  Well done, Robin!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  This article really puts a very valid point out there.  I think this may have a LOT to do with how we perceive the world.  Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to do more research!  Well done, Robin!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Bren Parks´s last blog ..<a href="http://mysticbrensthoughtsgarden.blogspot.com/2009/08/enlightened-life-magazine.html" rel="nofollow">Enlightened Life Magazine</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://letsliveforever.net/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Zonic</title>
		<link>http://letsliveforever.net/2008/11/why-we-sabotage-ourselves/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculous. &quot;First experiences&quot; are unlikely to have any impact on later behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous. &#8220;First experiences&#8221; are unlikely to have any impact on later behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there Doug - thanks for expressing your views. I think we, including our physical bodies, are part of God&#039;s creation, and that we are not fully functional until we have got all parts of ourselves working well together - a slowly dying body is not working well. I wonder what you mean by &quot;limitations of the physical realm&quot; - you don&#039;t believe we have the power to create heaven in any dimension? (including the physical one?) It&#039;s perhaps funny, but much of what you are saying expresses the physical immortality mindset perfectly! - for example - &quot;I prefer to die to the human (the death path) in order to be reborn into the eternal life of the spirit (our spirit creates all parts of ourselves)&quot;. Sorry to depress you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there Doug &#8211; thanks for expressing your views. I think we, including our physical bodies, are part of God&#8217;s creation, and that we are not fully functional until we have got all parts of ourselves working well together &#8211; a slowly dying body is not working well. I wonder what you mean by &#8220;limitations of the physical realm&#8221; &#8211; you don&#8217;t believe we have the power to create heaven in any dimension? (including the physical one?) It&#8217;s perhaps funny, but much of what you are saying expresses the physical immortality mindset perfectly! &#8211; for example &#8211; &#8220;I prefer to die to the human (the death path) in order to be reborn into the eternal life of the spirit (our spirit creates all parts of ourselves)&#8221;. Sorry to depress you!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Rosbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Rosbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To want physical immortality is stupid. Would you give up your
already rightful spiritual immortality for a situation in which due to
the limitations of the physical realm, your rightful freedom would be out of your reach? How many other properties of spiritual reality
would be denied you including perfect peace and the ability to 
travel anywhere in the blink of an eye and the most desireable of 
all benefits, to be free of the human ego? It is in the most profound ignorance that we even discuss physical immortality. I am not the physical body. As a spirit ,I dwell within it. iam not the physical body. I am an offspring of God. Would I give up the
glory of eternal life in the spirit as a son of God for death as a 
physical human? I prefer to die to the human in order to be reborn into the eternal life of the spirit. Even to think of physical immortality turns my blood cold and my mood to one of depression. ------Doug Rosbury</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To want physical immortality is stupid. Would you give up your<br />
already rightful spiritual immortality for a situation in which due to<br />
the limitations of the physical realm, your rightful freedom would be out of your reach? How many other properties of spiritual reality<br />
would be denied you including perfect peace and the ability to<br />
travel anywhere in the blink of an eye and the most desireable of<br />
all benefits, to be free of the human ego? It is in the most profound ignorance that we even discuss physical immortality. I am not the physical body. As a spirit ,I dwell within it. iam not the physical body. I am an offspring of God. Would I give up the<br />
glory of eternal life in the spirit as a son of God for death as a<br />
physical human? I prefer to die to the human in order to be reborn into the eternal life of the spirit. Even to think of physical immortality turns my blood cold and my mood to one of depression. &#8212;&#8212;Doug Rosbury</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://letsliveforever.net/2008/11/why-we-sabotage-ourselves/#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lucero - That would certainly be interesting, to get a follow-up of people who had Leboyer births. I have heard of children who had water births being ver alive and self-possessed
@Weight Loss Blog - thanks for visiting, Joan
@Shannon - thanks for your comments, Shannon. It&#039;s funny how the divide continues - many parents see the value of going natural, while a lot still defend intrusive, unnatural methods fiercely.
@John - Hi there John and welcome to this blog. I look forward to exploring your writing more, soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lucero &#8211; That would certainly be interesting, to get a follow-up of people who had Leboyer births. I have heard of children who had water births being ver alive and self-possessed<br />
@Weight Loss Blog &#8211; thanks for visiting, Joan<br />
@Shannon &#8211; thanks for your comments, Shannon. It&#8217;s funny how the divide continues &#8211; many parents see the value of going natural, while a lot still defend intrusive, unnatural methods fiercely.<br />
@John &#8211; Hi there John and welcome to this blog. I look forward to exploring your writing more, soon.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ancient testimony suggests the path of life:

http://www.mortalresurrection.com/about/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ancient testimony suggests the path of life:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mortalresurrection.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mortalresurrection.com/about/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of something.  The birthing process is a reflection of the culture.  Painless quick and easy.  But none of those things can actually be delivered!  Alot of women and men are returning to the natural way, the way we were designed.  A good strong labor and lots of support!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shannons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://shannonsusannasmith.com/dec-13th-live-at-the-grotto/592&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dec 13th-Live at The Grotto&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of something.  The birthing process is a reflection of the culture.  Painless quick and easy.  But none of those things can actually be delivered!  Alot of women and men are returning to the natural way, the way we were designed.  A good strong labor and lots of support!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shannons last blog post..<a href="http://shannonsusannasmith.com/dec-13th-live-at-the-grotto/592" rel="nofollow">Dec 13th-Live at The Grotto</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robin-
I&#039;ve thought about this article a great deal. My husband and I have talked about this subject for quite some time.  I was born under the twilight drink-a cocktail served to women in the seventies.  I was born in a daze. I made sure when my son was born it was all natural. The hospital staff were stressed out and wanted to do intrusive things right away, but Steven kept them at bay!  Baby Ronan had to nurse first, and be loved, nurtured and adored.
I was going to give birth in a birthing center and three days before my due date, my midwife was fired and was unable to deliver him.  So that which I was trying to avoid, I had to embrase. 
We had to be serious warriors the next few days.  Hospitals and birthing are a tough road for many women.  And as I talked to women about their birth experiences, many don&#039;t realize that alot of the procedures used are unnessessary, abusive and dangerous.  And all to often if I talk about that, they defend the doctors and staff.  When to me nuturing and saftey are first.  It&#039;s a hard subject. And getting back to my own birth experience, I can spectulate on similar patterns I still experience.  Breathing patterns especailly.  It&#039;s a great topic and thank you for your wonderful article Robin!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shannons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://shannonsusannasmith.com/dec-13th-live-at-the-grotto/592&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dec 13th-Live at The Grotto&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robin-<br />
I&#8217;ve thought about this article a great deal. My husband and I have talked about this subject for quite some time.  I was born under the twilight drink-a cocktail served to women in the seventies.  I was born in a daze. I made sure when my son was born it was all natural. The hospital staff were stressed out and wanted to do intrusive things right away, but Steven kept them at bay!  Baby Ronan had to nurse first, and be loved, nurtured and adored.<br />
I was going to give birth in a birthing center and three days before my due date, my midwife was fired and was unable to deliver him.  So that which I was trying to avoid, I had to embrase.<br />
We had to be serious warriors the next few days.  Hospitals and birthing are a tough road for many women.  And as I talked to women about their birth experiences, many don&#8217;t realize that alot of the procedures used are unnessessary, abusive and dangerous.  And all to often if I talk about that, they defend the doctors and staff.  When to me nuturing and saftey are first.  It&#8217;s a hard subject. And getting back to my own birth experience, I can spectulate on similar patterns I still experience.  Breathing patterns especailly.  It&#8217;s a great topic and thank you for your wonderful article Robin!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shannons last blog post..<a href="http://shannonsusannasmith.com/dec-13th-live-at-the-grotto/592" rel="nofollow">Dec 13th-Live at The Grotto</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Weight Loss Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weight Loss Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, hope this comment gets through I&#039;m still somewhat new to this whole blogging thing.
nice post! I discovered your blog while 
searching for other people&#039;s weight loss stories. I&#039;ve actually just started blogging about
my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joansweightloss.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;weight loss success story&lt;/a&gt; - I lost over 30 pounds in a month
with a diet I developed!


I would really appreciate it if you could stop by my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joansweightloss.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;weight loss blog&lt;/a&gt;and  tell me what you think.
Warmest wishes,
-Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, hope this comment gets through I&#8217;m still somewhat new to this whole blogging thing.<br />
nice post! I discovered your blog while<br />
searching for other people&#8217;s weight loss stories. I&#8217;ve actually just started blogging about<br />
my <a href="http://www.joansweightloss.com" rel="nofollow">weight loss success story</a> &#8211; I lost over 30 pounds in a month<br />
with a diet I developed!</p>
<p>I would really appreciate it if you could stop by my <a href="http://www.joansweightloss.com" rel="nofollow">weight loss blog</a>and  tell me what you think.<br />
Warmest wishes,<br />
-Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Lucero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that being born is to suffer.  Not in the sense that the act of being born is painful (maybe it is I don&#039;t remember), but that living in this imperfect world can lead to heartache.  Unfortunately, we are born in sin to sinful parents.  There is a remedy if we choose to pursue it - Obeying our Almighty God and putting faith in His son and the ransom he provided to release us from our sinful condition.  Then we can be a part of what it talks about at John 17:3, &quot;This mean everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.&quot;  Of course  we have to couple that knowledge with exercising of faith (John 3:16).  As far as why we sabotage ourselves, I think most people are merely resistant to change, unsure and insecure about their own abilities.  Many times I think those problems stem from issues encountered in childhood and adolescence, not necessarily just the act of being born.  I would like to know how the babies who experienced peaceful births noted in this book are faring now as adults.  Are they as successful and blissful as the author suggests they should be or are they no different than the rest of mankind?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Luceros last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.earthformed.com/2008/12/15/enter-to-win-a-500-k-mart-gift-card-from-momsational/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Enter to Win a $500 K-Mart Gift Card from MomSational&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that being born is to suffer.  Not in the sense that the act of being born is painful (maybe it is I don&#8217;t remember), but that living in this imperfect world can lead to heartache.  Unfortunately, we are born in sin to sinful parents.  There is a remedy if we choose to pursue it &#8211; Obeying our Almighty God and putting faith in His son and the ransom he provided to release us from our sinful condition.  Then we can be a part of what it talks about at John 17:3, &#8220;This mean everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.&#8221;  Of course  we have to couple that knowledge with exercising of faith (John 3:16).  As far as why we sabotage ourselves, I think most people are merely resistant to change, unsure and insecure about their own abilities.  Many times I think those problems stem from issues encountered in childhood and adolescence, not necessarily just the act of being born.  I would like to know how the babies who experienced peaceful births noted in this book are faring now as adults.  Are they as successful and blissful as the author suggests they should be or are they no different than the rest of mankind?</p>
<p><abbr><em>Luceros last blog post..<a href="http://blog.earthformed.com/2008/12/15/enter-to-win-a-500-k-mart-gift-card-from-momsational/" rel="nofollow">Enter to Win a $500 K-Mart Gift Card from MomSational</a></em></abbr></p>
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